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John Terry - hedersmann?

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A_Hleb
A_HlebInnlegg: 14184
09.02.12 02:29

Fra TalkChelsea forum:

"This is an article about John Terry written by a former youth Chelsea player who currently plays in Iceland, Sam Tillen. I translated the whole thing from Icelandic so don't expect it to be perfectly written. Never the less it's a very good read and shows a side of John Terry most media and non Chelsea fans choose to ignore.


"As football fans we don't get a lot of oppurtunities to judge a player's persona, all we get is stuff from the newspaper and other medias and of course how the player acts on the football pitch. It's normal that our feelings towards them base on those things since we don't know them personally. But unfortunately this can be very deceiving.

Sometimes reporters can have a lot of propaganda. They could have had an argument with the player, be friends with his ex wife or support a rival club. When a player steps on the field on a saturday the whole world watches him play under the pressure of his life. Players, managers and supporters have all been waiting for this moment - kick off. It's abnormal to judge people's behaviour under these circumstances. Do you think that when Gary Neville wins a game of hide and seek with his daughter he yells at his wife "Come on!!!!" while he holds on to his shirt like he did in front of Liverpool supporters at Old Trafford? I think not.

When you are around the training ground you get to see the players in they're true form. Some of them surprise and charm you while others dissappoint you. This would also be the case if you meet someone in real life. The fact that footballers are famous does not make them any different. They just have talent in a specific field just like doctors or architects. Some of them are good people, others are not.

The year 2002 I was 17 and had been injured for eight monts. I usually had to train twice as much to be in form. I trained with several players during rehabilation and since John Terry was facing injury as well I trained a lot with him. We trained together for 3 or 4 weeks before he began to play again and prove himself as the number one center back in the first team. After this John always observed how I was doing with my injury and he wished me good luck for my first game after 11 months of rehabilation. Unfortunately in that first game I got heavily injured again and had to go to surgery 3 days later. When the physio came to visit me he said that "JT" had asked if I could get vacation and he even asked Graeme (Le Saux) if they could use the "discipline fund" (money if a player comes late to a training and such) from the first team to pay for my vacation. I couldn't believe it.

After staying home for ten days I went to the training ground and John was there. He asked how I was doing and then said "Me and Graeme have arranged for you to go to a vacation, you can go wherever you want, with your friend or your brother, you deserve something good. Just think about where you want to go, this isn't your money! Just let us know how much it costs and we will arrange it.

I didn't know what to say other than thank you. I talked to the youth and reserve coaches and they told me it was probably best for me to take the vacation. One of the reserve coach said that I still had that "hospital color" because I was as white as a ghost. I lost a lot of blood in the surgery it showed in my face.

My mother had also just had surgery so she could use a a little break from work. That's why I wanted to take her with me. It was october so I needed to find "some place hot" like John advised me to do. The one place close that was hot enough was south spain and because this wasn't my money I didn't want to take advantage of the generosity from John. So the next day during practice I said to John "Is it okay if me and my mother go to Sevilla over the weekend?" His answer was, "Come on Tills! You can go wherever you want for free, why do you want to go there? It won't even be hot. Look at it again, go to the caribbeans or something, you can sit at the beach without having to worry how much it is going to cost, we will make sure of it."

So I went and checked again and found a good offer for a trip to Tobago. I talked to my physio for a few days and he said "It's fine, just talk to JT." I still felt bad spending other people's money, I had never done that before. So naturally I was a little nervous when I was talking to John, telling him about the trip I had in mind. And what did John say?

"No problem, good choice! Just give me the info and we'll pay it."
He arranged everything and the day before I was leaving for the trip he called me over in the dressing room. "Tills, your going tomorrow, right?" He went to his pocket and took out 100 pounds. "Here, some pocket money to spend". I said that I couldn't accept it. He asked again and again I refused. Then he stood up and said "you're not going anywhere until you accept this!". I had no choice.

When I came back from the trip I was renewed and a part of the reason was that I was finally ready to play football again, 6 months after my surgery. In my first game after the injury (in the youth team) we were playing Crystal Palace on our training ground. The first team wasn't suppose to have training until 3pm but our game was at 10am. John came to see me play, 5 hours before his training. He came just to see if I would get through the game, which happened. He certainly didn't have to do that, but he did.

When by brother Joe was in the youth team, John paid for driving lessons for every single player in the youth team because he knew how expensive it was when you only get 80 punds a week in the youth team. The youth players just had to tell him how much it costed and John paid it next day. In that time when the youth players were cleaning the first team players shoes everyone wanted to get one of the 'sharks', John, Frank Lampard, Jody Morris or Eiyour Smári because they gave the highest "christmas bonus". Some players didn't give any bonus even though the youth players had cleaned they're shoes for 6 months. John didn't ony gve high bonuses, but he even paid for the youth players fines if he thought they were being treated unfairly. Of course, he told them not to say a soul.

John has never forgotten what it was like to be a player in the youth team and he is the perfect captain. He was always available if you wanted to talk to him. He always asked every youth player how they were doing in the team. If he heard that you played well in a match, he congratulated and encouraged you. He really had an interest. He never forgot the young players. He was always monitored the youth players including me. For instance, he found an agent for me that I signed with. When youth players traveled with the first team he always made sure that they got they're bonuses, that made alot of difference in they're paychecks. He helped them adapt and welcomed them in to a new environment. On the pitch and the training ground he was magnificent, he had an heart like a lion. He trained after practices, always did that little extra. We really looked up to him.

It wasn't just the youth players either. There are endless stories of his kindness and generosity, stories that never left the training ground. One of them stands out. We had an old masseuse that was called Al, one day his car broke down for good. He said that he couldn't attend to trainings anymore because it was very difficult for a man of his age to use public transportations. One day after practice John told him to go to the parking lot and close his eyes. When he opened them he saw a brand new car. John had asked every player in the first team to chip in to buy Al a new car. The old man started to cry. This all happened before Roman Abramovich and before John was a superstar and started making big money.

Last year Al got seriously sick and had to be in a hospital. When John found out he immediately contacted him. Al was flattered to hear from him and his wife was delighted that John had taken the time to hink about him. John visited Al regularly until he passed away and John, of course, attended his funeral.

Marcel Desailly, the captain before him, didn't do anything like the things John did. He couldn't care less about the young players or anyone else in the club for that matter. As a player he was impeccable but as a captain he did nothing and wasn't even close to what John is. In my first and second year in the youth team it was our job to get signed shirts from players from the first team, those shirts where then sent to fans or to a charity. We all stood in a row in the hallway before practices when the first team players walked passed us and then they signed the shirts. When Mr. Desailly came he usually pretended to be on the phone so he didn't have to do anything. We were like "Marcel, uuuuuumm, Marcel, could you please....." and then he was gone. Disappointment.

Some players cause you a lot of disappointment when you meet the personally. They also do that in daily life. John has, of course, had a few problems outside of the field that has gotten a lot of press but I will always remember how he treated me when I was a teenager. No one else would have done that or even think about it. He is no saint but there is a reason why Chelsea fans, players and staff look at John Terry as a real lead"

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Alle som har spilt fotball skjønner at John Terry må være den perfekte kaptein. Rett og slett fantastisk å lese. Det er nok helt unikt å betale kjøretimer til alle juniorspillerne, kjøpe ny bil til folk i støtteapparatet etc. Viser vel bare at man ikke må dømme folk utelukkende etter hva den britiske søppelpressen skriver.

(Innlegget ble redigert 09.02.12 02:32)

megapixsel
megapixselInnlegg: 6250
09.02.12 02:34
A_Hleb: Alle som har spilt fotball skjønner at John Terry må være den perfekte kaptein

Det er jeg enig i, men det er lett å mislike fyren også. På banen er han den fødte kaptein, men det stopper der for min del hvertfall. 

A_Hleb
A_HlebInnlegg: 14184
09.02.12 02:40
Saliph: Nei, rasshøl.

På mange måter, men den perfekte kaptein for et fotballag.

Andropov
AndropovInnlegg: 18323
09.02.12 02:41

Rørene historie

Hulk!

petterG
petterGInnlegg: 6956
09.02.12 02:49
A_Hleb: I lost a lot of blood in the surgery it showed in my face.

Og der falt bunnen ut av den "historien".

Operert på sykehus, hjemme i 10 dager, og fortsatt blek på grunn av blodtapet... 

GatlingGun
GatlingGunInnlegg: 30034
09.02.12 02:50

Er vel egentlig ikke noe poeng i å poste dette innlegget her inne. 

Terry spiller med feil drakt i forhold til majoriteten av supporterne her inne.

Det blir som å møte opp på et KKK-møte i sørstanene i USA på 1950-tallet og snakke varmt om likestilling blant hvite og svarte.

Uansett, Terry er en hedersmann på mange måter selv om hans kjærlighet til klubben noen ganger går utover hans oppførsel på banen.

Den perfekte kaptein.

JT - Captain, Leader, Legend.

b0lle
b0lleInnlegg: 10835
09.02.12 02:51
petterG: Og der falt bunnen ut av den "historien". Operert på sykehus, hjemme i 10 dager, og fortsatt blek på grunn av blodtapet...

Nå var vel det alt du leste av artikelen så litt feil å uttale seg kanske.

GatlingGun
GatlingGunInnlegg: 30034
09.02.12 02:52
megapixsel: Det er jeg enig i, men det er lett å mislike fyren også. På banen er han den fødte kaptein, men det stopper der for min del hvertfall.

Du kjenner ham personlig, eller tar du bare for gitt at alt den britiske pressen skriver om ham som er negativt er korrekt?

Du trenger ikke å svare.

rdoppfrem
rdoppfremInnlegg: 29
09.02.12 02:53
GatlingGun: Den perfekte kaptein. JT - Captain, Leader, Legend.
GatlingGun
GatlingGunInnlegg: 30034
09.02.12 02:54
rdoppfrem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tf6mrA0-tA

Keane var et villdyr og den perfekte kaptein.

Terry er den siste av sitt slag i England. Dessverre.

A_Hleb
A_HlebInnlegg: 14184
09.02.12 02:56
petterG: Operert på sykehus, hjemme i 10 dager, og fortsatt blek på grunn av blodtapet...

Som du sikkert kan lese, så er det oversatt fra islandsk, ikke umulig at det er noen småfeil her og der. Det er liksom blit så "in" å "ta" spillere her inne, enten det er Suarez, Gerrard, Evra eller Terry. Innerst inne er nok alle jævlig bra folk.

(Innlegget ble redigert 09.02.12 02:56)

GatlingGun
GatlingGunInnlegg: 30034
09.02.12 02:58
A_Hleb: Som du sikkert kan lese, så er det oversatt fra islandsk, ikke umulig at det er noen småfeil her og der.

For øvrig imponerende at en supporter av en rival som Arsenal gidder å ta seg tid til å lese et så langt innlegg som omhandler JT.

Det skal du ha kudos for.

Andropov
AndropovInnlegg: 18323
09.02.12 03:07

A_Hleb, hvorfor har du ikke besvart mitt spørsmål fra i går?

TheFamous25
TheFamous25Innlegg: 5018
09.02.12 03:12

Enige med GG her. Kudos til A_hleb som leser et så langt innlegg om Terry for så å omtale det positivt.

Er ingen tvil om at han har mye følelser for klubben og gjør absolutt alt for å hjelpe til. Det å ta seg så god tid med youth spillerne vil jeg tippe at det ikke er så mangen kapteiner som gjør det borte i England.

 

megapixsel
megapixselInnlegg: 6250
09.02.12 03:35
GatlingGun: Du kjenner ham personlig, eller tar du bare for gitt at alt den britiske pressen skriver om ham som er negativt er korrekt?

Selvsagt kjenner jeg han ikke personlig. 

Nei, jeg tar ikke for gitt at alt negativt som skrives om Terry stemmer heller. Men at han har noen usmakelige opptredener på samvittigheten er det liten tvil om. 

 

morbidsaint
morbidsaintInnlegg: 20137
09.02.12 03:49

Pft, mokkamann denne Terry.

Fantastisk kaptein, da. Men det visste vi jo.

petterG
petterGInnlegg: 6956
09.02.12 05:14
b0lle: Nå var vel det alt du leste av artikelen så litt feil å uttale seg kanske.

Jeg leste hele.

silkshade
silkshadeInnlegg: 3405
09.02.12 05:19
A_Hleb: Fra TalkChelsea forum:

PP I tråden om "PLs minst ærerike spiller".

..Men det visste du vel? ;-)

Abelsborg
AbelsborgInnlegg: 15260
09.02.12 07:28

Takk skal du ha A_Hleb, si i fra når du ønsker deg en halvliter.

Fergietime
FergietimeInnlegg: 2132
09.02.12 07:31

Bra post.

JT ser faktisk ut til å være en good guy.

oyvindherman
oyvindhermanInnlegg: 5713
09.02.12 07:42

Morsom lesing.

LFC_1977
LFC_1977Innlegg: 651
09.02.12 07:47
GatlingGun: Du kjenner ham personlig, eller tar du bare for gitt at alt den britiske pressen skriver om ham som er negativt er korrekt?

Kjenner du ham personlig da? Du vet at alt negativt som skrives om han overdrives og ikke har rot i virkeligheten?

John Terry har som alle andre mennesker gode og dårlige sider. Og de aller fleste mennesker gjør vel stort sett bra ting? Finnes egentlig få gjennomførte drittsekker. Terry har jo uten tvil noen svin på skogen som er verre enn de de fleste andre har som sier meg at han som person er i stand til å gjøre ting jeg vil tro de aller fleste holder seg for god til. Jeg tenker da på å knulle på dama til kompisen bak hans rygg.

Men som kaptein for fotballklubben sin har han vært aldeles strålende. Og det er jo det vi fotballsupportere skal først og fremst vurdere han etter.

Fergietime
FergietimeInnlegg: 2132
09.02.12 07:56
LFC_1977: Terry har jo uten tvil noen svin på skogen som er verre enn de de fleste andre har som sier meg at han som person er i stand til å gjøre ting jeg vil tro de aller fleste holder seg for god til. Jeg tenker da på å knulle på dama til kompisen bak hans rygg.

Litt vanskelig å vita hva som "virkelig" skjedde med denne historien, samme med Giggs også.

Sun osv er ikke akkurat en troverdig kilder. Ja det var mye media rundt dette, men man vet faktiske ikke de faktiske forhold uten å ha vært der.

arkles
arklesInnlegg: 2191
09.02.12 07:57

Fantastisk mann John Terry..

Hans service inneholder også å holde andre spilleres koner og kjærester varme når det er litt kaldt ute.. Fantastisk mann.

Abelsborg
AbelsborgInnlegg: 15260
09.02.12 08:02
LFC_1977: Terry har jo uten tvil noen svin på skogen som er verre enn de de fleste andre har som sier meg at han som person er i stand til å gjøre ting jeg vil tro de aller fleste holder seg for god til. Jeg tenker da på å knulle på dama til kompisen bak hans rygg.

Dette angivelige forholdet - benektet av begge de to - skulle angivelig ha funnet sted etter at forholdet mellom Bridge og dama var slutt.

colombo
colomboInnlegg: 13329
09.02.12 08:25
Fergietime: samme med Giggs også.

Giggs hadde seg med brorens kone, hva er så vanskelig å forstå med det...? Terry er en drittsekk, men Giggs er på et helt annet nivå...  

Abelsborg
AbelsborgInnlegg: 15260
09.02.12 08:30
minuspol: Fryktelig opptatt av penger denne Tillen? Fryktelig opptatt av å sette seg selv i et så godt lys som mulig også. Hva fikk han for dette våset?

Det er slike innlegg som burde føre til umiddelbar utestengelse. Anklager om løgner uten grunn og bidrar bare til mer hat på forumet mellom forskjellige lags supportere. Vi her på VGD er ikke tjent med å ha slike blant oss.

colombo
colomboInnlegg: 13329
09.02.12 08:33
A_Hleb: John didn't ony gve high bonuses, but he even paid for the youth players fines if he thought they were being treated unfairly. Of course, he told them not to say a soul.

Tipper Terry er kjempeglad for at Tillen forteller dette... :-)

For meg høres det nesten litt skummelt hvor opptatt Terry var av de unge guttene...

colombo
colomboInnlegg: 13329
09.02.12 08:35
Abelsborg: Det er slike innlegg som burde føre til umiddelbar utestengelse. Anklager om løgner uten grunn og bidrar bare til mer hat på forumet mellom forskjellige lags supportere. Vi her på VGD er ikke tjent med å ha slike blant oss.

Seriøst, så med en gang det dukker opp en avdanket Chelski-reject med en tåredryppende historie så skal vi begynne å slikke støvlene til Terry...? Det er jo faktisk en mulighet for at historien er for god til å være sann.

Abelsborg
AbelsborgInnlegg: 15260
09.02.12 08:37
colombo: For meg høres det nesten litt skummelt hvor opptatt Terry var av de unge guttene...

Å hjelpe de som har det dårligere enn deg sjøl er en ukjent verden for deg ja. Eller du tror kanskje at Terry har homofile tendenser? Det passer vel bra med tidligere utlegninger om hans liv utenfor fotballen ja, smart du.

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