(Denne tråden er startet på oppfordring fra lesere i Syria-tråden)
Her kommer noe sjokkerende:
Dette er fra et telefonintervju fra 21Century Wire, episode #146.
Direkte link til mp3 lydfil (3 timer)
Patrick Henningsen med journalisten Vanessa Beeley som har vært ut og inn av Syria/Libanon i månedsvis og fungerer som krigskorrespondent.
Etter halvannen time (litt over 92 minutter) kommer følgende historie (min transkripsjon):
--------- Patrick Henningsen (92:25) : I'm on the road right now ... can I introduce Vanessa Beeley who is a contributor at 21 Century Wire, but Vanessa and Heshe, I just want to share a story with you: So ... I was in Oslo, Norway.. I was in Oslo and wanted to check out the Nobel Peace Price museum. I wanted to go and check it out, see what was going on there ... so I go in there, and Vanessa you are going to like this, they are giving a tour ... the upstairs section was kind of an "Arab Spring" section, and the lecturer there who I believe was from North Africa, or she was middle-eastern.... she had a crowd of foreigners... various people from America, some Europeans, telling them all about the Arab Spring.
She started with Libya, didn't mention anything about the NATO bombing or NATO backing NATO jihadis or the gun-running, so I bit my tongue. Then she said "Bashar Al-Assad used chemical weapons against his own people in 2013". This is at the Nobel Peace Price center, in a tour that is being given, a lectured tour, saying Assad used chemical weapons against his own people in Ghouta in 2013.
And at that point, I couldn't hold my tongue, I spoke out and and I said "I'm sorry, but that's not true, those are lies". I went on to kind of lecture her: Even the UNs own inspectors debunks those bogus claims, as did Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the list goes on.
So, you could have heard a pin drop, I was the most unpopular person in that venue at that moment, maybe in the whole of Oslo. But I couldn't keep my mouth shut, because what i was hearing was complete propaganda. So 'regime change', war propaganda being doled out every day, four time a day to tourists at the Nobel Peace Price Museum. Can you believe that, Vanessa Beeley?
Vannessa Beeley (94:40): (lydproblemer)
Patrick Henningsen (94:50) : It was a she actually, female. She said to me "That's your opinion". I said, "It is not a question of opinion, it is a question of historical fact", but there you go.
Vannessa Beeley (95:00): Well, it's kind of interesting you say that, and it sort of makes me smile, because as I'm sure you're going to mention to your listeners, I have just come back from Syria, and one of the metings I had was with president Assad, who told us during the meeting that in fact "The greatest number of ISIS commandos are from Norway".
Patrick Henningsen (95:30) : ........(pause) ......... Wow!
Vannessa Beeley (95:36): That took a second to kind of drop in there, right?
Patrick Henningsen (95:40) : Wow! Wow!
Vannessa Beeley (95:42): This is based on obviously their data and their figures, which are extensive and extremely well documented. (lydproblemer) ministers ... ethnicity and origin (lydproblemer) as if we heard a pin drop in the room when he said that... (lydproblemer) .... come from Norway.
Vannessa Beeley (96:25): And the interesting thing, and you'll kind of like this Patrick, they've gone from, I don't know if this is a theory or whether this is proven by research, but they've actually gone from heavy metal, hard rock, secular society into this extremism. So they are not even muslims, they have gone into extremism from hard rock, heavy metal in Norway to Syria.
Patrick Henningsen (96:50) : Wow, what a narrative. I'd love you to do an article on this, Vanessa.
Vannessa Beeley (97:00): It's coming, don't worry. I really apologise, its been a crazy seven days, with barely 5 minutes to breathe, let alone write anything or get anything up on the site. There is a huge backlog of information that needs to be written up and put up there. The other thing he added was that the majority of the recruitment now is no longer obviously done the in the mosques it is basically done via the net. About 80% of the recruitment is done via the net.
Jeg mangler ord. Hvor er norske myndigheters protester? Hvor er norske mediers protester? Dette er ganske enkelt krigsforbrytelser. Norske myndigheter er selvsagt klar over dette og det er umulig å konkludere noe annet enn at de støtter det som skjer.
Vær vennnlig å høre fra 92:00 minutter og del dette med andre.
Link med video som viser klipp fra hennes møte med Assad (arabisk):